Thursday, July 31, 2008

For Nifty bears, the signs are ominous


JUST one word defines the sentiment amongst Nifty traders going into the settlement of the July series of derivative contracts — confusion. For, a series in which the Nifty initially fell over 12% only to follow it up with a 20% rise, it’s natural for a large number of players to be caught on the wrong foot, reports Shakti Shankar Patra from ET Intelligence Group. And this is clearly reflected in rollover figures, which at 53.75% is much lower than the past six month’s average of 61.72% on the S-1 day. But fortunately for Nifty bulls, the rollover is happening with a positive bias, as bulls seem to be more confident than bears going into August. The fact that July and August futures are trading in contango (August futures trading higher than July futures), only further validates this. This confusion, which leads to more volatility, is reflected in the options segment as the India VIX is trading at extremely high levels — it had closed at an all-time high on Tuesday and even after cooling off substantially on Wednesday, is quoting above 50.

However, such high VIX levels — which are higher than even that during the madness of January —clearly suggests the panic is overdone and justifies the long rollover seen in the Nifty. As for settlement day, Wednesday saw massive buying in the 4300 call and selling of the 4400 put, many of them even below its intrinsic value.

Generally, a put quoting below its intrinsic value is seen as a bullish sign as it suggests that stronger hands are writing these puts, knowing very well that their cash buying would push the underlying above the strike price, rendering them worthless. So, the signs are ominous if you are a Nifty bear.


My Commnets:
This above post is a ditto copy of what I read today in ET.......Read the last para that I have highlighted in bold blue words.....
I would like to have expert opinion of Mr Azad who seems to able to read the technicals of market very well as he was able to judge the upmove from 12500 and started buying from thereon....
I am keeping my fingure crossed whether the market breaks the resistance of 15300 or not as written by Mr Azad and then slowly drift towards below 10,000 and then to 2000 level or period.......
I also suggest readers to read the whole post nicely and try to understand what Mr.Shakti Shankar Patra wants to say.....
I would only write here that ,though the CRR rate was hiked and not so good nos of Inflations market went up......ignoring the bad factors.......I repeat , ignoring the bad factors.......
it means , market do not wants to go down more now on bad news and is ready to go up on any good sign.....

6 comments:

  1. 1. Mkts to stabilise in Aug; -ve cues unlikely: Karvy
    2. Religare Aegon AM sees further recovery in mkts this Aug
    Vetri Subramaniam, Head-Equity Funds, Religare Aegon Asset Management, expects markets to see some more recovery in August. "The markets may surprise on the upside. One could see sharp rallies in this weak phase."

    According to him, oil prices will act as the key driver for markets going forward. "Crude is likely to cool down."

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  2. chakry comment

    Check the possibilities...
    Wednesday, July 30, 2008


    I know we met with cent percent accuracy on the market call against all odds
    yet I will not take huge credit for the same. We know for sure that
    investors had lost huge money in the crash from 6200 to 3700 but I would
    squarely blame the traders for these kinds of losses as this had happened
    only because of futures trading. One more reason which must factor in is
    that there is always difference between correction and conspiracy.


    Whole world knows that crash was a systematic attack on the system where
    shorting was done with a purpose. It is a common sense that once the side
    gets advantage they rule even in trying circumstances. e.g India lost the
    last TEST with Srilanka only because the opponents took charge and their was
    huge advantage of the first innings against which the great top 5 failed
    stand.


    Bears definitely took charge at 5800 and started hammering and they were
    supported from some outside agency (mastermind) whose name I can't reveal
    with backing of cash to crack the margin. It is very simple to break the
    satta of anything provided you have the ability to take short term risk and
    rich to break it. System creates the damage by itself.


    Now see OIL after the margin is eroded it is very hard to fight back for
    OIL. All white collared fund managers gave call of 170 USD and 200 USD non
    stop in oil along with OPEC president coming on wire channel and saying that
    OIL is heading to 200 USD. These very guys are now saying OIL will touch 110
    to 100 and OPEC president is saying OIL will touch 70 to 80 USD. There is no
    code of conduct for changing and vitiating the opinions and investors
    following them just lose their lives.


    We at CNI are the firm believer of facts and circumstances and in short term
    we are proven wrong due to various reasons but in long run our call has not
    failed so far. We will prove once again our ability when Nifty crosses 5000.


    Coming back to bears and bulls; let me tell you why we believed that market
    is heading for 4500 plus tomorrow. Bears had gone short from 4100 to 3700
    and even average can work out to 3900 in this vallan. Bulls have held them
    hard. Bulls got upper hand when they squared off their long at 4500 on UPA
    victory day which means 600 points in pocket and after distribution
    reentered yesterday when bears were in force. The average loss suggest this
    will be biggest vallan for bulls going by statistics and therefore they will
    use all their credit of this vallan to rig up Nifty to new levels tomorrow.
    I may not be surprised if Nifty makes one day high tomorrow. Tomorrow's day
    will be marked for all those stock which are at least 50 pc higher on
    vallan's low and still hugely short e g RNRL, Reliance capital, SBI, IDBI,
    IFCI, RIL and Sterlite Technology. What will happen only time will tell us
    tomorrow.


    We are bullish on the market for next 6 months and the returns will be
    really extra ordinary provided proper risk is taken. Jayswal Neco announced
    close to Rs 3 per and set to close the full year at Rs 15 plus. It also
    announced that its CDR has been accepted. Interest waiver will come in Oct.
    One foreign bank is cornering the shares from market and this stock will
    easily cross our estimate of Rs 188 for sure. I also know your memory is
    either short or you are not inclined to give credit to CNI when the stock
    become super hit. Shivvani, Venus, Alphageo and SELAN were Cni research and
    all have become big stocks. It requires at least 8 quarters seeing the co
    taking proper shape from the stage where we identify the stock. Jayswal,
    MSP, Sharp, Silversmith, Entegra, Adhunik, and Network (please see last 5 to
    6 BSE announcements carefully) and find out yourself what Network is all
    about….? Which gr it belongs…? What valuation should you give to this gr…?
    What price they have acquired and what discount you are getting…?


    Next six months, there are rare chances of rate hike, repo rate hike.
    Inflation will drop down to as low as 7%. Monsoon back on track will push
    agri production. Global commodity prices too will fall smartly to reverse
    overall global inflation too. Oil will touch as low as 72 USD. Gold will
    drop to 710 USD. Yet smart analysts are bearish and Indian markets then I
    must say only ALL the BEST.


    In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities. In the expert's mind
    there are few. Find out the difference between the beginner and expert.
    --
    Regards,


    Anik Shah

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  3. Rajeevji,
    I would like to clarify that at no point of time did I say that the market will go down to 2000. What i said was that market bottom is likely to be around 10000 likely around Feb 2009 and there after there MAY be a long consolidation phase as seen in the last bear market of the year 2000.I would like to point out that the bear market of 2000 took 15-16 months to bottom out during which it dropped 55% from the top. After a bottom was reached in sep 2001-- the market consolidated for a further 19 months until may 2003 before the bull run. The bear martket of 1992 ( bear markets seem to occur in 8 year cycles 1992-2000-2008)did not have a long cosolidation phase after the bottom was reached, but the bottom was over 50% from the top.
    I wd like to add that I am not a bear by any stretch of imagination. I dont beleive in shorting the markets. I adopt a purely 'long only' philosophy.I would love to see that i am wrong and hope and pray that the markets go up. I do not want to venture into a chart analysis of why I think the markets will go down to 10000 levels, as I know u dont like technicals. But I fondly hope my analysis is wrong.
    regards and best wishes

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  4. This is from another blog and totally opposite view
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    http://blog.investraction.com/
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    Nifty growth now less than 10%
    Results today:

    * RCOM showed 23% EPS growth.
    * DLF's consolidated shows a growth of 10.86%.
    * Nalco's EPS grew 17.6%.
    * TataSteel was up 1.27% on EPS (considering last EPS adjusted down by the factor given in this circular)

    For some reason the NSE site shows the Nifty EPS down to 238. This is calculated using Nifty P/E (given as 18.21 today) and Nifty Close (4333). Let me go with this, and I'll revi

    237 is ridiculous. It's there from 220 same time last year, and with just one company (HCLTECH) to go - and that comprises 0.52% of the index. Even at 241 (as reported yesterday) we aren't growing much.

    This is less than 10% EPS growth for the Nifty.

    In Feb, the Nifty EPS grew 13%. In May, it was 11%. It's the end of July today, and with nearly all results out, we are less than 10%.

    Too much momentum, and too much inertia. We can't stay at a P/E of 18 with these growth rates. Time to move over to bonds. Oh, sorry, nobody trades there anymore. Hmm.

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  5. where will the nifty head in Aug.. IMHO...only down,..there might be some short covering rallies here and there but that is that..it is heading downt he toilet guys..any other view is not worth, considering that everything is slowing down..in fact, my view..if one of these days - a big bank goes down in US - we will have a lower circuit and nothing can stop it from heading to 3600

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  6. Dear Rajeev bhai,

    I am good in only one way and not both ways…….
    Best Of Luck ……Friends…….

    Actually i was always thinking that why u r not giving sell call?

    now i got the Answer.

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